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In today's New York Times some moron by the name of John D. Morris, who calls himself a "retail analyst ... who [leads] 'shop-alongs,'” announced that the reason stores are hawking Live Strong bracelets and Teddy Bears for charity is because "This is a born-again Christmas" with "echoes of the Heartland."
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First of all, I'm willing to bet that average giving for born-again Christians is a fraction of what it is for us selfish and evil liberals. I'm willing to bet that the only thing the vast majority of born-again Christians give to is their local televangelist to help him buy his-and-her matching jets. I don't know for sure, but if someone tracked charitable donations, I'm willing to bet that the blue states would leave the red in the dust. After all, us liberals are the ones voting against our interests. Us liberals are the ones all tied up in knots about things like the family farm. Us liberals are the ones who tax ourselves to death to support the crackers riding around in their pickups in Arkansas.
But I'm sure they buy more Live Strong bracelets then we do. Maybe that's because on average we give more than a dollar to charity. And maybe it's because we don't need to make a fashion statement advertising our generosity. You know who wears those bracelets in my house? My kids. And you know why? Because other kids do.
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I started following the Feingold diet to see whether cutting out artificial dyes would make a difference to my son (it did); doing something like that can open your eyes a bit, as can the information at the site you reference. It sort of radiates outward...
And yes--the only people I know wearing the Live Strong bands are kids. And to link charitable giving to a particular religious sentiment or geographic area is ridiculous. Puh-lease. Where do they find these people?
I understand that you are upset, but unfortunately, it looks like you would lose your bet regarding red and blue states and charitable donations. People don't like liberals (and I am a liberal) because we can come off as smug, know-it-alls who may have the money but don't really care about working class folk even though we say we do. I wish I knew a way to counter that stereotype. I know that you work for charitable causes so the stereotype I described above does not seem to fit you, but your sweeping statements about how liberals give more and are better seemed too simple. I found a Generosity Index here:
http://www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org/cfp/db/generosity.php?year=2004.
These numbers don't seem to reflect well on blue states (although I really don't like dividing the country up like that since the race was close in many states). I was led to it by some articles that pointed out that New England states, which as a block voted for Kerry, make more money than the rest of the country but give the least. In addition, it looks like more states which voted for Bush donate more to charity overall than the states that voted for Kerry. Granted, the news sources here may not be objective (what media organization is nowadays?) but I thought I would point these out:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41409
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1276796/posts
Maybe we could argue that liberals are willing to give more tax dollars and think that the government should take a greater role in social welfare (I thought that was Democratic philosophy), but I don't think that you can say that liberals as individuals care more than conservatives. There are conservatives who make my skin crawl, but really, there are good and bad people on both sides and both sides have made sweeping generalizations and oversimplifications.
Stephanie - Thanks for pointing out the issue with the itemized deductions. I still think that the study does mean something, I guess that conservatives donate more in terms of what can be accounted for in tax returns, but I suppose there has to be a way to try to measure donations - how much relative and not relative to income, how much to arts or other causes, etc., - without just relying on personal perception. Perhaps I am putting too much blind faith in numbers but there must be some objective way to measure charitable giving. I would prefer that liberals turn out to give more, but I guess I didn't like the generalization made in the entry. On the other hand, this is a blog not a research group, etc., so I probably should just let it go and figure this out on my own time and in my own space.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with giving money through a church group or that it lessens the contribution because it was given at church. Many religions require that money be given to help the needy. Church groups do provide services for the poor and for the homeless. At least at the churches that I've been to, some of the money is given to the church and some of the money is given to a charitable organization that the church has picked. I don't know much about evangelical groups, but if the money is given just to support the church and the church doesn't do anything with the money except to line its own pockets, then yes, I don't think that should be counted as a charitable donation - at least, not one that would benefit the needy.
Hmmm - I read this post and comments and the only objective data anyone offered is refuted w/ anecdotal stories to minimize it. Nevermind the religious pejoratives - poor people are more generous with their money than rich peopple b/c they understand hardship. Rationalize your beliefs first - see what you want to believe second. Besides - those queer-hating churches just line their own pockets and those preachers sit at home and never visit sick people in hospitals or counsel troubled marriages for free or anything. (Deep breath) If the left wants to make enemies of the poor, the religious, and the South, please remember you all started it on Nov 3rd, 2004. Get a grip.
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Thrilled to have started some comment debate. OK, first of all, generosity indexes do not distinguish between religious giving and other. Quite frankly, I think there is an absolute and tremendous difference between the two. It is a rare religious organization that gives to charity beyond what it keeps for itself, and evangelical Christian organizations have been almost unique in our contemporary society in their creation of a body of religious "leaders" who have used their churches as a way to raise money for themselves. Furthermore, even when these organizations do "help the poor," that "help" is more likely to be in the form of or dependent on prostelization.
Organizationt that are devoted just to assisting others, not trying to convert them, are overwhelming supported by and staffed by people who you would consider liberal.
Oh, and one more thing. Nothing was "started" on November 3. It took that slap in the face for many liberals to decide that they'd had enough with being called French faggot-loving unAmericans. It took that slap in the face for us to say, you know what? I'm just as American, no MORE American than them, because I love what this nation stands for, and they hate it.
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